Also, there should be a raider faction called the Cheese Heads who are from Wisconsin and yell about 'ill a noise' when they attack you. NERDS, FOR THE BROTHERHOOD FOR EVER, [–]forthebrotherhoodSteel Be With You[] 3 points4 points5 points 1 month ago (0 children), [–]NomadNuka 145 points146 points147 points 1 month ago (24 children). It's easy to agree with the BoS when it comes to degraded super mutants or feral ghouls, but what about people who believe Synths are people and want to defend their rights? Make them scarce and rare even. I wish we could've gotten a single player spinoff with that map. [–]DefiantLemurEnclave 7 points8 points9 points 1 month ago (4 children). I dont think anyone can really speak for the fallout 76 lore other than those that are currently playing the game and understand the lore. The Brotherhood seems to be, in general, a lot more willing to budge on certain matters (recruitment of outsiders in particular) and I don't know if they've actually engaged in any genocidal behavior thus far. I feel like I missed something in Fallout 4 about the BoS that everyone else has latched onto. the BoS have been in two bethesda games. To see what would happen. [–]elegiac_bloom 10 points11 points12 points 1 month ago (4 children). Nah, let’s get the same dying order of techno-knights and redress them with some new kind of anti-social, regressive whitewash. Not only is the Brotherhood of Steel back, but the treasure hunter miners have once again been … Work with or against the other Factions to achieve success. You get your allies in positions of power and funnel funds to them, while trying to screw over your political opposition. Hierarchy consisted of an Assembly that ultimately elected a Grandmaster that actually held the power (Council of Elders, High Elder). Then you have the Enclave that wants to wipe out everybody. [–]Nymith 12 points13 points14 points 1 month ago (2 children). 39 points40 points41 points 1 month ago (0 children). Fallout … © 2020 reddit inc. All rights reserved. A lot of people forget this context when speaking about the Brotherhood. Released on January 13, 2004, Fallout: Brotherhood of Steel was the fourth video game to be set in the Fallout universe and the first to be made for video game … They were a good faction to have in New Vegas for the sake of ideological diversity but you have to be careful where you use them. Authoritarian and ultra-militaristic. The Brotherhood of Steel is a pseudo-religious paramilitary organisation that is devoted to recovering and preserving Pre-War technology and information. We know NCR is making progress, but even that is only possible after fighting a super mutant army for the very survival of our species. Give me somewhere like Chicago, where the Raiders from the north come down wearing cheese symbols and are fighting the Brotherhood of the Bear based out of Soldier field. I wouldn’t have an issue not having the brotherhood in the area, but I would like for there to be a faction that uses power armor and high tech weapons in each game. [–]-TRAZER-Old World Flag 10 points11 points12 points 1 month ago (3 children), No I think Enclave is even more done to death, [–]drcubeftw 4 points5 points6 points 1 month ago (1 child). who are tired of the same semi- racist, power armor wearing, tech fetishists we keep getting every game. Anything that he approves of is law. Fallout 76 fans get to unwrap their gifts a little early this year, as the Steel Dawn update has published early. Oh yeah, big time. The OG BOS was interested in developing new technology as much as finding out tech (for example, all the Super Sledges in FO1/2 are new Brotherhood tech. [–]FalloutCreation 5 points6 points7 points 1 month ago (5 children). [–]YARGLE_IS_MY_DAD 71 points72 points73 points 1 month ago (22 children), For real. Again, logical progression. Or the Legion if it took place between 3 and NV. It would be cool for like a mission where you go through some old tunnels or there being a couple of speak easy’s, but at this point I would say we have so little of that stuff around especially in Chicago proper. The difference is that house doesn't care about the people, they're just pieces on the board. Discord promotion not allowed. Because they didnt want to share bunks in fallout 3 with ghouls? They were a minor faction in the original games and are completely different in the new ones. [–]TheSpaceWeegeeDRINK. [–]NomadNuka 67 points68 points69 points 1 month ago (5 children). I like vaults as much as the next guy, but Fallout 2 and New Vegas showed that's not necessary for a good fallout and more vaults that are in operation and 200+ years after the bombs fall starts to strain credibility. A civilization that's been in place a while and is working if poorly. That's hardly unique to Bethesda; Interplay and Obsidian have done the same. I want Fallout 5 (possibly by Obsidian) to just not include the Brotherhood, make a unique armor-clad faction that is actually interesting and that we can be invested in. Trailer pochodzący z gry Fallout: Brotherhood of Steel wydanej na konsole PS2 i XBOX. I like the Minutemen, but I did side with the Institute as they were the only one who made sense. Not sure why the NCR aren’t more prominent in the fallout series. I’ve thought this for too long. You know what, let’s actually give some props to Fallout 76 instead of bashing it for once. But the Brotherhood evolves drastically over the games and only becomes this exact description in 4. The Brotherhood of Steel makes its debut in Virginia. I always thought they were, as you said, just a military organization. Email. It's because it is a much more effective way of getting humans to function and fight as a group. I ain't dying by no mutant bitch. [–]AtoMakiVault 13 10 points11 points12 points 1 month ago (2 children). A Chinese community of pre-war tech would be cool. Idk how it would work lore wise but I feel like we could get some cool stuff. They're closer to a private army that aims to achieve a specific goal they view as vital for humans to survive as a species. also, long term benefits to the wasteland like the institute? They're pretty much lying down in bunkers and hoping everyone else dies. and in fallout 4 they're one of the more interesting factions, and maybe the best written one. What are you doing step fatherhood of steel?! Keeping an Outcast faction to offset them is great... but here I am respinning the same tired groups myself. [–]incomprehensiblegarb 11 points12 points13 points 1 month ago (0 children). I feel like FO4 would be direly missing something if the Brotherhood didn't show up. * Interplay * Action Role-Playing * Release: Jan 14, 2004 * ESRB: Mature Fallout 76 - The Appalachian Brotherhood of Steel. There's some build up and intrigue as you figure out who they are and what their plans are. Fallout 76 remains on its way to add content to the Appalachia wasteland. mission for joining, or at least gaining access to their facilities is do a mission which they fully expect you to succeed at, and power armor is given really independant of brotherhood sources. yeah but you're also in power armour. All the cool BoS people from 1 and 2 left the West-Coast BoS to end up as the Mid-West BoS by the time of New Vegas, and only the uncool assholes remained. There was also Asher's "fall from grace" in The Pitt DLC, both examples show how the BoS failed to maintain their lofty ambitions after coming to the East. The second option is the one to go with. My point is this, BoS is like it is for a very good reason. Institute/Railroad/Minutemen would have been weak (I dont think that minute men and railroad are particularly opposites, and being honest, the Institute could have fucking flattened both of them). Print. [–]Caleth 97 points98 points99 points 1 month ago (6 children). Bear with me. Honestly, I think its kinda innovative that the Brotherhood has no interest in state building or conquering territory. All I've played is 4 and 76 (hoping to play the others soon) and I agree with you I don't know shit about the lore, but I do like blowing things up. Telegram. That’s the main Idea i’m trying to get across here. Nationalism doesn't really apply to BoS, since they're not a government or a nation in the way we understand such things. I love BOS but in next Fallout games I would love to see some new and original factions. Roger Maxson sent a squad to determine what happened. I've always looked at Ceasar Legion as a more primal form of Mr.House's faction. Got to thinking about it some more. The Fallout 76 Brotherhood of Steel isn’t quite as prominent in Appalachia as it is in other games from the franchise. [–]Tezmir94Enclave 7 points8 points9 points 1 month ago (1 child). Compare this to Enclave in pretty much every Fallout game where it is just "We want to kill everyone on sight" including you and that's it. Their followers are programed to follow either via indoctrination or actual designing. Mr. House made sense since it was one dude, on life support. The Legion doesn't fail with morals, because the only moral they have is a sense of "honorable combat" which is flexible at best, so to them, morality is a inane and "cowardly" concept for the most part. They preserve the means and knowledge that humanity needs to get back up again. But beyond the enclave what else would really make sense? Need help getting Fallout to run? The Micro-Sledge from FOT is also Brotherhood tech. They're on a mission to save humanity, they're better educated, and are one of the few successful large organizations in the wasteland. land and territory. Obsidian made it. The map could reach as far west as KU college town of Lawrence, which was an important town during Bleeding Kansas, and as Far East as the outskirts of St. Louis which would have become a large slave trading hub. Why would the BoS take inspiration from Capone instead of using raiders themed after him which is way more fitting? I would genuinely recommend them both. Is it? [–]ZodiAcme 2 points3 points4 points 1 month ago (0 children), [–]Benjamin_StarscapeChildren of Atom 4 points5 points6 points 1 month ago (3 children). [–]Croissaintly 45 points46 points47 points 1 month ago (2 children). WATER. Brotherhood of Gold, they realised wealthy was the key to uniting the rando factions and trade would solve problems and unify people. [–]StarTrotterFollowers 27 points28 points29 points 1 month ago (3 children), Obliterating a town for some tech is how to help the wasteland, [–]rmak36Tunnel Snakes 15 points16 points17 points 1 month ago (0 children), [–]MagicPuffIsCool 41 points42 points43 points 1 month ago (1 child), FUCK THOSE M.I.T. Fascist? The real issue is that IF they did remove the BoS from future games it would just make those same people complain about not having them in there because for some reason, that they can't figure out, is that it doesn't feel like fallout without them. No, What they are is a military force and a military doesn't function like a free and open society, since it wouldn't function effectively if it tried. Honestly, I think the only pre-war faction that would make a lot sense to show up, would be Vault-Tec. McNamara halted progression, and had become the worst version of the Brotherhood, raiders who hid from the world; refusing to change. Fallout: Windy City, [–]the_slop 2 points3 points4 points 1 month ago (0 children), [–]TangoForce141 135 points136 points137 points 1 month ago (11 children), 76 was the only game I agree with this on. A new dawn is coming to Fallout 76, and you best be ready!Courtesy of Bethesda Softworks. ... help Reddit App Reddit coins Reddit premium Reddit … But they now are, as 76's Brotherhood's existence is one that seriously strains credibility. To produce the 3rd gen of synths? Fallout 76 players have long been waiting on the release of the Steel Dawn content that brought the Brotherhood of Steel to the game, and thanks to … And now in D.C it seems like the Brotherhood pretty much created their own state. This would give you different buffs, access to different vendors, different branching story quests depending on who captures which areas, and maybe even different unique perks you can only get from a specific faction capturing a specific location. 1 Overview 2 Locations 2.1 Chapter One: Pacific Northwest 2.2 Chapter Two: Bering Strait 3 Appearances The "once silent organization", has been expanding and seizing more and more territory under their control. They're just evil villains but some characters mention safe roads and that's justification for being basically raiders with a better chain of command. [–]gerrittd 9 points10 points11 points 1 month ago (1 child), [–]Kerlysis 7 points8 points9 points 1 month ago (0 children), Bunch of dead cats in the mutant testing wing. I miss the Followers of the Apocalypse, I don’t think there is any other like movement/group/faction/whatever in a game that I have identified with so much. [–]AdrianValistarEnclave 3 points4 points5 points 1 month ago (0 children), [–]collonnelo 1 point2 points3 points 1 month ago (0 children). They're secretive and reclusive, rarely actually s… Authoritarian - I'm not exactly sure how the Brotherhood of Steel is specifically structured, but according to the Fallout Wiki and the Vault Wiki, power seems to chiefly lie with the High Elder and the Council of Elders, who reside at the Lost Hills bunker. Check out Fallout 76. And even though there was massive uproar with them being in 76, Bethesda is still giving them a whole dlc even if them coming from California 26 years after the bombs dropping is contradictory and lore-breaking. There are two ways to have less BoS, by actually having them in the games less, or by balancing their appearance with other stuff so they just have a less outsized presence. There is a reason they appear in almost every boxart. [–]MrSothaSil 9 points10 points11 points 1 month ago (0 children), [–]BrotherhoodVeronicaAd Victoriam 3 points4 points5 points 1 month ago (0 children). That outweighs them saying mean things to ghouls, New comments cannot be posted and votes cannot be cast. )and you can even find a Lyons supporter who was hand picked to join the commonwealth campaign, you can find her holotape on the airship, it's more democrat and republican then anything else, Again west coast(who should go ahead and die or join the east), the east actually defends caravans(to butter them up for trade but still), Nope, take the mojave chapter for instance, Elijah was a scribe before becoming elder, and macnamara might have been to but I can't remember. Paladin Leila Rahmani and her troops have arrived from California to establish a new Appalachian chapter. [–]Aalmus 10 points11 points12 points 1 month ago (0 children), [–]trumpetseverywhereGolly! :(, [–]StarTrotterFollowers 15 points16 points17 points 1 month ago* (2 children). The BoS of Fallout 4 talk about preserving humanity, but how do they feel about irradiated humans (i.e., ghouls and super mutants - particularly non-feral ghouls and non-degenerated super mutants like Marcus and Fawkes)? And even if we do, have you ever seen a democratic army that the commander must seek the approval from his subordinates? The BoS have no qualms invading a region and imposing it's neo-Luddite beliefs on local populations with no consent of the governed, attempting to deny technology that could improve the lives of people, or making arbitrary decisions like that of cleansing all synths without any diplomacy or deliberation with locals. Maybe still unreasonable, but not uncommon. Personally I don't like Roger Maxson's holotapes being in west virginia just to validate the BoS existence of being there, but thats an entirely different discussion altogether. Fallout 76 remains on its way to add content to the Appalachia wasteland. But immediately after reading this comment of mine they would say something like, "Well the BoS is overrated racial something something..." its all hyperbole on reasons why they dont want the BoS in future games. Control of Industry and Commerce - This one's probably the shakiest, not he least because there's not exactly much industry in the Wasteland to control, but the Brotherhood do come as close as they can, seizing technology from those they deem to be unworthy, harassing caravans for loot. They have fascinating beginnings but newer stories depict them as magpies for technology and nothing more. So yeah, I think that’s what they should do, have the brotherhood but balance it. 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